What's the talk of education?
The bleak future of the Irish university
The managerial types running universities need to remember they are there to provide a service to the academic staff and students. Their promotion of commercial activities and a commercial culture should clearly be subordinated to the role of universities as institutions of learning. Narrowly-focused MBA-style thinking and financial number-crunching suited to making widgets or exporting software have very limited application in universities – patslatt, politics.ie(extract)
Pleased that Tom Garvins piece in the IT led me to 1957 article Ireland. . . where does she stand. We were a cod then much the same as now. – @seanaoleary
Great Tom Garvin piece on unis. One caveat: problem not commercialization but bureaucratization. Phenomenon well described – @derekflynch
Ombudsman for children slams school that refused a place to a pregnant teen
Looking at the report, the only "issue" mentioned in any detail was her subsequent school's horror at the way she had been dealt with by this school. The school principal, also its manager, made it plain on paper that he considered her pregnancy reason enough to exclude her. – Aleo, thejournal.ie
They had no right to refuse her an education. But a good point, what about other schools? Did they say no too? Or are they trying to hang this particular school for revenge? Poor girl she deserves better it's 2012 not 1912 – Ciaran O'Hare, thejournal.ie
I'm not sure if it's the Roman Catholic church that's causing the problem here, or is it just another teacher who has been handed too much power!! – Rodrigo detriano, thejournal.ie
Schools should not be allowed to deny a kid her education simply for having been in other schools previously or for being pregnant. They certainly should not be allowed discriminate on the basis of what "kind of girl you would want to be sitting in class with". – Mark Downes, thejournal.ie
Ostracising teenage girls who get pregnant outside of marriage? Better take down all those statues pf Holy Mary then. Can't be having that. – Hazel McDonagh, thejournal.ie
I don't want my 16 year old in the same class as a preggers 16 year old…who's been through 2 schoils already. Get up the yard, would you? – Eamonn Clancy, broadsheet.ie
Well, lets take a poll. Who here had someone get pregnant in their class and yet managed to survive unscathed? Me, for one. – Three Broadsheets to the Wind, broadsheet.ie
This country gets worse by the second. Was the father of the child banned from his school too? Probably not. – Onlo, broadsheet.ie
I know people who have completed school and a degree after having children. It was difficult but they managed it. Individuals like yourself and a few other posters would be the same people whod be complaining about people claiming social welfare, but when a girl with a kid wants to continue her education theres an issue? – Corkfeen, boards.ie
